Coleman Montana 8P Family Tent WP Rainfly

This item is exactly as described, for those writing reviews that it wasn't authentic Coleman make sure you are ordering from a legit seller on Amazon. The one I got is definitely authentic as I've seen a few other tents that people bought at other stores and it matches up exactly. The first time putting it up took us awhile, maybe 30-40 minutes with two adults a teenager and a kid. It would have probably gone faster but the only one of us who had ever set up a tent was myself who was told to stand back and read them the instructions. The three of them insisted they wanted to learn how to set it up and take it down on their own. So I read them instructions and showed them parts and held onto things as needed and the three of them got it up just fine. They didn't feel that it was too hard and feel that in the future with more practice they will get it up faster and easier each time. Also take down was quicker, and this time since it was just a reverse of before I wasn't even needed there for instructions. They had me sit back while they took it down, again so that they could learn. I also challenged them to get EVERYTHING that came out of the main bag to go back into the main bag. And snap if they weren't able to do it! It did slow them down because they had to slow down and make sure they were getting air pushed out of it to get it rolled up as tight as possible. I don't know that on every occasion it will fit back into the bag but, hey challenge accepted this time and they did do it! We didn't have any rain, dew or moisture as it was a hot California Indian summer...yeah it is October and that day temps were in the low 90's! Yikes! That meant at night we were able to leave the windows open for a nice breeze and most of the night we slept on our sleeping bags with nothing, or a light blanket in the early morning cooler hours. So that means I can't say how good it does against rain, but in the future when I find out I will update this review. It was calm all afternoon and evening, but early morning while we were asleep the wind started to blow. You could hear it howling and it was going fast and hard out there...rattled our tent but everything stayed secured. Even our rainfly, which surprised us we expected it to blow towards the side we secured it on and possibly to the ground. We only secured it with the hooks that go near the poles and velcro, only using the guylines on the front to help support the entry way. We did not secure any guylines on the sides or back. The winds were strong enough to knock over our chairs and stuff off the table, so it wasn't just a light breeze! Woke my son up and startled him a bit. The one thing that I did notice that matched up with other reviews is on the door. It was hard to get the pole in, you have to do it in the right order or you risk tearing the tent...I thought my hubby was going to, it was close! However it didn't, he pulled things back apart tried again in a different order and they all went in easily. Also we mostly used the zipper to keep the door closed because velcro didn't line up 100% or if it did fabric would get in the way. You had to slid your finger along to keep the fabric out of the way and wiggle the door around to get the velcro to line up. It was doable, but it seemed to take just as long as zipping it. One piece lined up well so if you trusted that one piece to secure and keep bugs out then you were okay. We were worried because we had a high number of flies in our area sow e wanted to keep them out completely and felt the zipper did a better job. I did like the D shape though, I remember many times as a kid getting my hair caught or tangled in the zipper while trying to duck through the V opening with the zipper pull at the top. Ours even included a zippered slot near the front left corner that you could run a power cord through as needed. It had a window in the door and a window on each side of the tent. It had one pocket about half way up the tent on each side as well. Good for those of us that wear glasses to safely stash them without worry of someone rolling over on them and breaking them. This tent could sleep a full 8 people if they were all not huge people and didn't mind touching. The two kids settled down on one side of the tent and me and hubby on the other side of the tent. My son as some point in the night come over and snuggled up to his down (maybe due to the wind spooking him) and later when his teen sister realized she was alone she came over and squished in next to me. We all did fit along the one side, however we were touching edges and didn't mine if our bodies touched, legs slung over each other ect. Four grown men who would want to keep space between them would not fit, so size just depends on how much room you really feel you need. It is a good sized tent for a family of four.