ariellem wrote:Not a sport item. Not cool. Very insensitive, especially after Sandy Hook, to sell any rifles that aren't completely toy-only (like a squirt gun or a cap gun). Boo, Woot.

I had no idea Piers Morgan was here.

wpolyak wrote:Can't deliver to IL. This just proves its easier to get a real assault riffle than a air rifle in Chicago. God I hate my city sometimes.

Really? There's not a single gun store in the city of Chicago. Also, last I looked I hadn't heard of many crimes being committed here with assault weapons.

I want one, but I can't have one.

Stupid liberal state controlled by Loco in the Cocos in Chicago.

Hahaha love it.
Thank you Woot for posting this.
I'm gettin some popcorn for the show.

ariellem wrote:Not a sport item. Not cool. Very insensitive, especially after Sandy Hook, to sell any rifles that aren't completely toy-only (like a squirt gun or a cap gun). Boo, Woot.

You have the right to pursue happiness, not the guarantee to actually be happy. So sorry you arent happy, but it aint Woot!'s (or the rest of our) problem.

I just tried to buy and it said "no, no" for my zip. I live in Hawaii and neither my state or zip (96766) show in the posted "no, no" pile. What gives??!

Could someone from Woot enlighten me please?

gcosta wrote:660 fps, huh? Must have an ass-kicking graphics card.

Not everything is measured in frames :-). FPS = feet per second.

Can anyone tell me, is shooting squirrels in my backyard legal? If yes then I'm in for one.

sdfreedive wrote:Popcorn at the ready.

Thought this when checking... Love that you got this out..

EvilE1174 wrote:Ohmygosh!Ohmygosh!Ohmygosh!!!, really? Get real, and get a life!!

That is the whole point " to have a life". I agree that these type of items should not be sold, especially without a license. A bb gun can cause someone to get hurt just as much as a real gun.

Just ask the families of the victims involved with the shootings in CT.

lorrafrancine wrote:To the moon with you. This should not be a 'sport' and sold like this.
I check woot every day and mention you at least once a week to friend or family.
I'm rethinking that.

Wow.. really... sad that people have to worry about buying a pellet gun... This is a nerdy place to buy from, I am proud of that, maybe go back to just general amazon...

katieklag wrote:That is the whole point " to have a life". I agree that these type of items should not be sold, especially without a license. A bb gun can cause someone to get hurt just as much as a real gun.

Just ask the families of the victims involved with the shootings in CT.

Are you really comparing an air rifle accident to a tragic shooting? These crosman air rifles are sold at walmart, as are the exact same model that it was based off of (the 760.) I actually received one of them for Christmas and you'd be lucky if you could kill a squirrel with it.

Political arguments aside, most of being a parent is ensuring children's safety, and this can be a useful and cheap tool for that. The chances of your child finding a gun unattended at a friend's house or on the street are much, much higher than the chances of them being a victim of a Sandy Hook.

Part of your responsibility is making sure that child recognizes that a gun isn't a toy and responds appropriately. Unfortunately, and without proper and adequate exposure to exactly what it is, telling them "Don't touch it! Tell an adult!" tends to make children want it more. They know you like them at least a little because they've seen your TV shows/movies/video games/etc., and they think they're neat because you obviously think they're neat, too, or you wouldn't watch those shows, and they know for a fact the good guys stop the bad guys with them, and... you get the idea. They're kids. They don't think like us, thank God.

Tell them they can't watch the DVD you're watching. Tell them they can't drink what you're drinking. Tell them they can't read what you're reading, etc. What do you think they'll do if they get the chance?

Why would you think they'd approach guns any differently?

Please, even non-gun parents and maybe especially absolute gun hating parents, please buy one of these or something similarly realistic for the sole purpose of teaching your child what it is. Be proactive and take the mystery away from guns. Buy a BB rifle and pistol and learn how to safely handle it yourself first (visit local police, ranges, or dealers for guidance), then show it to your child occasionally. Each time let them see you ensure it is unloaded before anyone, you or them, begins to handle it, explain why, point out what the parts are and what they do, and continually reinforce why the gun isn't a toy. Let them hold it and look at it once an adult has made sure it's safe, and reinforce why the gun should be left where it is.

These are very basic safety obligations for you as a parent. Guns aren't just going to disappear, so please make sure your children aren't so fascinated by their mystery that they find it, hide it, and hurt themselves or their friends/siblings.

bsmith1 wrote:The write-up says it shoots air-soft pellets, but the specs say BBs and real pellets... I think this is a legit pellet gun, not an air-soft toy.

To characterize air-soft rifles as toys ignores the fact that high quality versions can fire up to 800 hard plastic pellets per minute at speeds approaching 500 fps, since this rifle does single shots at 660 fps this weapon is far more a toy than those are.

Due to it's design, this is also a weapon that can get you shot dead-on-sight by law enforcement.

bdesign wrote:Really? There's not a single gun store in the city of Chicago. Also, last I looked I hadn't heard of many crimes being committed here with assault weapons.

Where have you heard of "many" crimes being committed with assault weapons in one major city? They are anomalies!

Interesting tidbit? Lewis and Clark brought an air rifle on their famous expedition:

"as we had determined to leave our blacksmith's bellows and tools here it was necessary to repare some of our arms, and particularly my Airgun the main spring of which was broken, before we left this place."

http://lewis-clark.org/content/content-channel.asp?ChannelID=300

350 round mag... sounds like we need to sign some more executive orders.

Let's see if I can sum this up!

3)

Except, not really.

This is the type of deal I love to smell in the morning!

I'd love to grab one of these but with as much as I'm in the middle of spending on two REAL AR-15s I'm not sure I can talk myself into an extra $40 for a pretend one...

c4warhead wrote:
Due to it's design, this is also a weapon that can get you shot dead-on-sight by law enforcement.

I think that's the point I hang on. When I was a kid, some laws kicked in saying that all toy guns had to look ridiculously not like a gun (AK Centerfire, anyone?). As a kid I hated it. But now I'm grown up and have lived in too many cities where some kid with a realistic toy gun, unfortunately acting the part, goes and gets himself killed.
Yes ideally we're all responsible and in a responsible society, but these are just asking for trouble.

If I was 14 again, I'd be all over this as the most awesome thing for me to dent up stop signs with. But as a grown-up I say: if you want a pump action BB gun, get a pump action BB gun, don't get something that looks like an M-16.

Please tell me and I know you will. If this was a toy ,as some of you think, the tip of the barrel would be red.

ariellem wrote:Not a sport item. Not cool. Very insensitive, especially after Sandy Hook, to sell any rifles that aren't completely toy-only (like a squirt gun or a cap gun). Boo, Woot.

Toy guns would go on kids.woot and wouldn't be a sport item.

Level aim, steady hold, decent eyesight, you hit a target. Meets all the physical and entertainment aspects for a sport. If horseshoes and lawn darts are sports, this sure is. People can use this for pest control, to practice, to learn.

Your efforts to redefine what a firearm is, what a sport is, instead of just saying you don't like firearms is roundabout and disingenuous.

bdesign wrote:Really? There's not a single gun store in the city of Chicago. Also, last I looked I hadn't heard of many crimes being committed here with assault weapons.

I'm not a gun owner. But some of the stuff I read pisses me off.

Assault weapons aren't generally used in crimes. Despite their prevalence. And it's interesting you qualify your statement with "hadn't heard of many crimes", because clearly you have heard of SOME crimes in your area then. Also, a quick google search shows assault rifles have been recovered at crime scenes in Chicago.

Despite the ban. Despite no gun stores.

katieklag wrote:That is the whole point " to have a life". I agree that these type of items should not be sold, especially without a license. A bb gun can cause someone to get hurt just as much as a real gun.

Just ask the families of the victims involved with the shootings in CT.

So, did you? Ask? Check with them? About an air soft? Seems sort of silly to require others to ask when you in fact are making the claim.

Even with firearms, not all the families agree, like you falsely seem to want us to believe. But that won't stop your agenda, or you ignoring guns when they save lives, prevent home invasions, etc.

Someone might get hurt? Heavens. Someone might club you to death with the 5 and 10 pound weight sets woot has sold. Use the kitchen knives sold here to go on a slashing rampage (China, Japan massacres). Or use the HDMI cables or electrical cords on the electrical devices to choke you. Or dump the chemicals in the NiCad batteries of the tools they sell in your drink and destroy your kidneys. Or use those laser levels sold in the past to shine in your eye.

Harm. Really. I guess that outlaws humanity. Wonder if you know how many people have been beaten to death with fists or feet, or choked to death by someone with no weapon at all or a clothing or jewelry item.

And I don't think anyone should be dictated to because some criminal uses a tool or a weapon insanely. A nut killed his family with a hammer the other day. His entire family. Kids. Kills more people than the nut who killed the NY firefighters. Where's your outrage and the ban on hammers?

Woot's sold hammers in the past too, i know since I bought one. Ooo, scary. You should find it such. Creepy too, eh? I can even "practice"--I'm going to pound some nails this afternoon during the games as I continue renovations at my home. By doing so, I'm SO insensitive to the massacre out west, I know.

It would be cooler if it were belt fed.



Aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhgggggg!!!!!
Take that you blasted Squirrels.

ariellem wrote:Not a sport item. Not cool. Very insensitive, especially after Sandy Hook, to sell any rifles that aren't completely toy-only (like a squirt gun or a cap gun). Boo, Woot.

Liberal. Liberals are so sensitive. I would love to get this and shoot a couple of squirles with it.

Will this bad boy take out a drone/blackhawk/M1 Abrams when the gummint comes to take it away?

Woot has changed alot since I joined back in 2006. I used to check every morning what the daily woot was as soon as I got up in the morning. Not so much anymore. But one of the good things about woot is they are based out of Texas, one of the states that I consider an all American state. They love hunting, love bbq, and love their guns. God Bless you Texas.

terry oing wrote:Please tell me and I know you will. If this was a toy ,as some of you think, the tip of the barrel would be red.

Go get you a damned can of red spray paint then. Geegads.

Ok...so anyways, for what it is can someone tell me if this is a good deal or not?

well said dwallace

dwallace123 wrote:Political arguments aside, most of being a parent is ensuring children's safety, and this can be a useful and cheap tool for that. The chances of your child finding a gun unattended at a friend's house or on the street are much, much higher than the chances of them being a victim of a Sandy Hook.

Part of your responsibility is making sure that child recognizes that a gun isn't a toy and responds appropriately. Unfortunately, and without proper and adequate exposure to exactly what it is, telling them "Don't touch it! Tell an adult!" tends to make children want it more. They know you like them at least a little because they've seen your TV shows/movies/video games/etc., and they think they're neat because you obviously think they're neat, too, or you wouldn't watch those shows, and they know for a fact the good guys stop the bad guys with them, and... you get the idea. They're kids. They don't think like us, thank God.

Tell them they can't watch the DVD you're watching. Tell them they can't drink what you're drinking. Tell them they can't read what you're reading, etc. What do you think they'll do if they get the chance?

Why would you think they'd approach guns any differently?

Please, even non-gun parents and maybe especially absolute gun hating parents, please buy one of these or something similarly realistic for the sole purpose of teaching your child what it is. Be proactive and take the mystery away from guns. Buy a BB rifle and pistol and learn how to safely handle it yourself first (visit local police, ranges, or dealers for guidance), then show it to your child occasionally. Each time let them see you ensure it is unloaded before anyone, you or them, begins to handle it, explain why, point out what the parts are and what they do, and continually reinforce why the gun isn't a toy. Let them hold it and look at it once an adult has made sure it's safe, and reinforce why the gun should be left where it is.

These are very basic safety obligations for you as a parent. Guns aren't just going to disappear, so please make sure your children aren't so fascinated by their mystery that they find it, hide it, and hurt themselves or their friends/siblings.

Shameful of you, Woot... Stop the madness. You're sick for perpetuating violence. Enough is enough.
-Former Customer

slotter wrote:Wow, you have to be kidding.

This is why gun debate in this country is so frustrating.

Anyway, why the hell do they have to style a BB gun to look just like an M4? Pretty obvious, anyway.

So, does anyone actually have anything to say about the product? Reliable? Sights accurate?

Woot, you really do need to look into your shipping restrictions. MI allows .177 air rifles. I can buy the same gun at Walmart or Walmart.com and they will ship it. Amazon.com will also ship.

Think of the children!

No really, think of the children and buy 3 for 'em!

ariellem wrote:Very insensitive, especially after Sandy Hook, to sell any rifles that aren't completely toy-only (like a squirt gun or a cap gun). Boo, Woot.

If the Sandy Hook shooter had been armed with one of these, there might be a few students in need of white canes, but they'd still be alive.

kmf600 wrote:Liberal. Liberals are so sensitive. I would love to get this and shoot a couple of squirles with it.

I believe the rule is,if you're not smart enough to spell the word squirrel you're not smart enough to shoot one.

kmf600 wrote:Liberal. Liberals are so sensitive. I would love to get this and shoot a couple of squirles with it.

Please don't make tired generalizations. That's no different from saying "conservatives are so paranoid".

Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property. (Thanks wikipedia)

And this one supports the right to shoot pesky squirrels with BBs. Though doing it with this would freak out the neighbors.

I'ma sooo skeeeeered after seeing this fer sale....Oh woot, how can you be so insensitive, selling these instruments of death.

Just look at it..it's got that hangy down part, and it's black, and it's got that pistol grip, and probably a flip up thingy that makes it spray from the hip and everything.

Ohh, I wail for the chillldreeeeen! You are the cause of the decay of civilization, selling these scary things.


I'll take three please..

Guns of this site REALLY