Ready, aim, fire away at comparing these models! (But do try to stay on target.)

These are all pretty much the same gun in different configurations, except the Recon.
The Recon is the most youth friendly version of the bunch, with its smaller stock size and lighter cocking effort.

I got the silent cat about 4 months ago to deal with excessive varmints. Zeroes like a champ, even dropped the thing on bricks (unloaded) and the sight was still zeroed perfectly. Much fewer critters. Silencer works well enough but I recommend a slower pellet when trying to achieve desired incognitus

Since I am not entirely familiar with the lingo, what exactly does single shot mean?

Is this like a BB gun with a reservoir of ammo, you jock it and fire one shot, then jock and fire another? Or is it an: open the breech, place a pellet, close the breech, jock, fire, then start again?

Glen

/edit/ OK, for the record, I used the right word, the magical monkeys changed it to "jock".

mrglenasmith wrote:Since I am not entirely familiar with the lingo, what exactly does single shot mean?

Is this like a BB gun with a reservoir of ammo, you jock it and fire one shot, then jock and fire another? Or is it an: open the breech, place a pellet, close the breech, jock, fire, then start again?

Glen

/edit/ OK, for the record, I used the right word, the magical monkeys changed it to "jock".

Most pellet guns are single shot where you shoot, open the gun, reload, close and shoot, repeat.

This is mainly due to the fact that pellet ammo is irregularly shaped and cannot "feed" like a round BB can.

There are a very few models that will "repeat" where you have a clip of sorts that will supply ammo to the chamber either manually or automatically.

Assuming it doesn't sell out, any chance of knowing how long this category will stay up? Would be more convenient to put one on next months card since I had a large purchase on this cycle already.

Datzl wrote:Assuming it doesn't sell out, any chance of knowing how long this category will stay up? Would be more convenient to put one on next months card since I had a large purchase on this cycle already.

From the category page: Ends on September 20 at 9AM CT

Just as a point of interest, the Rocket pellet gun has a higher muzzle velocity than my 12 ga double-ought rounds. You can really do some damage with these things on varmints and small game (including the neighbor's dog that constantly takes a dump on your lawn). However, why the muzzle break to load and jock? I HATE those. Can't Gamo get some decent bolt-action, variable pump models made? It's not like it's a new concept. It's what my dad was brought up on as a kid, and what he taught me on.

On the other hand, I'm left wondering if I can by the Recon model, strip it and use the molded stock for my .22. It'd be a helluva lot cheaper than buying a custom stock! :oD

How are these guns refurbished? Are these just returns from previous woot sales since they've been on sale before?

The silent cat is only $20 more for a new one on Amazon ($20 because $129 + 5 shipping = $135).

http://www.amazon.com/Gamo-Silent-Cat-Air-Rifle/dp/B0024XEXQS

If it's manufacturer refurbished it makes sense since they probably fixed an issue, but can you tell me more about this refurbished guns mr/ms. woot bot?

I'm surprised that California isn't on the list of being unable to ship to.

While these are great air rifles, I really don't see the point of this deal. You're barely saving $10 on most of these buying refurb vs a new one with warranty. In fact, you can buy the Rocket brand new/shipped for a couple bucks less (on pyramydair) than what is offered on here for the refurb.

Why do so many of these "events" fall so short of being anything worthwhile..

darkazura wrote:I'm surprised that California isn't on the list of being unable to ship to.

A bunch of the prohibited zip codes are California, specifically the SF Bay Area.

The Big Cat 1250 is on Amazon for $104.70 free shipping. looks like the same gun as the 1200 except its 50fps faster with the PBA platinum?

Comparing them on the Gamo website it looks like almost no difference.

RomeoJN wrote:Just as a point of interest, the Rocket pellet gun has a higher muzzle velocity than my 12 ga double-ought rounds. You can really do some damage with these things on varmints and small game (including the neighbor's dog that constantly takes a dump on your lawn). However, why the muzzle break to load and coxswain? I HATE those. Can't Gamo get some decent bolt-action, variable pump models made? It's not like it's a new concept. It's what my dad was brought up on as a kid, and what he taught me on.

On the other hand, I'm left wondering if I can by the Recon model, strip it and use the molded stock for my .22. It'd be a helluva lot cheaper than buying a custom stock! :oD

Forget the neighbor's dog. It is his cat that crawls over my cars almost nightly that needs some attention. Spoke to him but that did no good. I think this just may be the answer and a permanent one. lol

Datzl wrote:Assuming it doesn't sell out, any chance of knowing how long this category will stay up? Would be more convenient to put one on next months card since I had a large purchase on this cycle already.

Nm, color me stupid. Don't use woot a ton so kinda skipped over it. (Still used to when it was only one item a day period.)

yoshoto wrote:The Big Cat 1250 is on Amazon for $104.70 free shipping. looks like the same gun as the 1200 except its 50fps faster with the PBA platinum?

Comparing them on the Gamo website it looks like almost no difference.

Agree - woot should be ashamed - where is the deal?

ashah1111 wrote:How are these guns refurbished? Are these just returns from previous woot sales since they've been on sale before?

The silent cat is only $20 more for a new one on Amazon ($20 because $129 + 5 shipping = $135).

http://www.amazon.com/Gamo-Silent-Cat-Air-Rifle/dp/B0024XEXQS

If it's manufacturer refurbished it makes sense since they probably fixed an issue, but can you tell me more about this refurbished guns mr/ms. woot bot?

Refurb airguns are returns from their retailers. Depending on the the retailers return policy, it could be defective, a little nick in the finish, too much gun for little johnny or they just didn't flat out like it. Once it's sold and returned, it can only be sold as a refurb, regardless of how much refurbing was needed.
I bought a Big Cat 1200 refurb, and you couldn't tell from a new one.

As usual - woot alienates a good majority of their NY clientelle because they can't seem to disassociate NYC with the rest of the state where all of the things they sell are perfectly legal.


/sigh/

Can anyone here tell me how the sound report is compared to subsonic .22 round(not the standard the subsonic)?

Why not Michigan? That's sad.
If the answer is Detroit or Flint, they wouldn't be interested in an air rifle. They have enough real guns.

jakeiscrazy wrote:Can anyone here tell me how the sound report is compared to subsonic .22 round(not the standard the subsonic)?

A little bit quieter. About the same as an air framing nailer, from a person standing off to the side of a shooter. It will seem louder to the shooter, because of the spring release mechanical vibrations transfering thru the cheek weld. My neighbor could tell when I was shooting my Big Cat from 60ft away, by the gun sound, and not the target contact alone.

darkazura wrote:I'm surprised that California isn't on the list of being unable to ship to.

Kalifornia isn't listed, but some of its ZIP codes are blocked - which is nonsense, e.g., Redding, CA is included, but there aren't laws or local ordinances prohibiting the sale or receipt through the mail of this item.
Thanks, Woot, for pre-banning something that isn't banned.

Damn, I should have done my research first. I just trusted that Woot wouldn't screw me and pulled the trigger yesterday (pun intended). Today I checked against Amazon (Woot's parent company) and found the exact same model, new, for $15 less!? And now it's too late to cancel the order. Great.

Obviously it's my fault, but I'm pretty disappointed in Woot for steering me wrong on this one.

I understand the pain of many of you that are not even allowed to have an air rifle shipped to you. Heck, in many of your areas some pocket knives are also blocked. Expect this as the law of the land as long as we, that is right all of us, continue to return to our municipal, state and federal government bodies those that continue to dictate these laws that have proven over and over again, DO NOT WORK! New York City, Washington, DC, Chicago, to name just a few have some of the most stringent weapon laws, including pocket knives, bows and air rifles, along with firearms in our nation. However, they continue to lead our nation in violent crimes and especially those involving what?, a weapon! A landlubber should easily surmise, those laws have done nothing to curb violence but they sure keep you from getting an air rifle! Then take California. Or as Henny Youngman would have said, PLEASE! How does a kid get a Red Ryder BB gun there?

These people that take away your rights do not put themselves in office. WE DO! So, if you really and truly don't like it, TAKE THEM OUT WITH YOUR VOTE! If you like it as is, KEEP THEM IN WITH YOUR VOTE! It will now be interesting to see if WOOT deletes this message.

These are just like the Pneumo's in Battlestar Gallatica. They won't take down a Cylon....don't even try.