Let it be known that you don't have to just stalk varmint with this gun, you can actually shoot them...and your eye out, kid.

"No, you'll shoot your eye out."

Uhh. Would this be a good first practice gun? And use to scare off yotes? No real bullets right?

$130 for a recoil pellet gun?

Man, Woot! HAS JUMPED THE SHARK!!

steve

Eye shoot out you will.

How can this be shipped to CA but not to NJ? Bah...
Anyway, does this have to go through a FFL Dealer?

unpcnook wrote:How can this be shipped to CA but not to NJ? Bah...
Anyway, does this have to go through a FFL Dealer?

No FFL dealer necessary, as it's not a "firearm". If you live in a state to which it can be shipped, it'll ship right to your door.

unpcnook wrote:How can this be shipped to CA but not to NJ? Bah...
Anyway, does this have to go through a FFL Dealer?

I also love the fact that they follow the rules for Illinois on Woot, but I bought a very similar pellet gun.. which I'm not supposed to be able to purchase in Illinois without a FOID card, off of the main Amazon.com site and it shipped right to my door. LOL

unpcnook wrote:How can this be shipped to CA but not to NJ? Bah...
Anyway, does this have to go through a FFL Dealer?

It has to do with the feet per seconds of the projectile.

This is a very high quality air rifle, but you can pick up a Crosman Phantom with almost identical specs at Wally World for $80 online. Also the scopes that come with these guns tend to be pretty crappy. Better to save the money up front and buy a quality scope later.

This is NOT a toy. This is NOT your typical BB/pellet gun. This is a serious weapon. I own several air-rifles. If you have a problem with rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks etc., you can pop 'em from your back door with nary any noise. Great pest control without 'disturbing' your neighbors.

This is a very good value. I got one through woot two months ago.
The scope that comes with it is a fixed 4 power model. I thought I might miss the typical 3x9, but 4 power is perfect for the shots you will use this rifle for. The scope quality is better than I expected.
This IS NOT a toy. Single shot rock chuck kills are common.

Here it was last time

and here was my post from last time.



Did someone ask for a youtube video demo? no? rats.

I'd also like to let it be known that I was the first person to do an "A Christmas Story" joke on sport.woot and was very disappointed when none of you guys got it >:C so I'm done with shooting your eye out jokes forever.

Woot seriously needs to check that shipping to NY thing. The zip codes they say are off limits do include NYC (as it should legally), but it also includes half of Nassau county - which has ZERO restrictions or laws against shipping air rifles in.

I bring it up every time, but every single time it is the same.


Zip codes 11530, 11520, 11001, etc... all fall under that blanket and all are in Nassau where it would be perfectly legal to own, purchase, or ship the air gun to.

unpcnook wrote:How can this be shipped to CA but not to NJ? Bah...
Anyway, does this have to go through a FFL Dealer?

I guess you didn't notice the banned zip codes in addition to the list of banned states. It lists zip codes 94101-96970 along with others. I live in CA and my zip code is banned! More foolishness from the CA government!!! It is really stupid that I can buy a REAL firearm here, but not an air rifle!!! Stupid damn CA politicians!!!

unpcnook wrote:How can this be shipped to CA but not to NJ? Bah...
Anyway, does this have to go through a FFL Dealer?

Looks like just no Nor Cal
Says doesn't ship to 94101-96970
Which is pretty much Northern California. They always say it's like two states, guess so. So is there some law that limits it to just half the state?

You guys need to come join a free state were people literally laugh out loud at the notion of an airgun being restricted and we still have a lower crime rate.

Jake
Virginia

jakeiscrazy wrote:You guys need to come join a free state were people literally laugh out loud at the notion of an airgun being restricted and we still have a lower crime rate.

Jake
Virginia

I know.... we've got a nice house in california, good jobs, but we're looking for work in Ohio or Texas. The government here in Cali is so ridiculous and corrupt we can't take it any more. They're actually adding open carry of unloaded shotguns in public to the long list of things that are banned here.

jpbay wrote:Uhh. Would this be a good first practice gun? And use to scare off yotes? No real bullets right?

You'd do a better job of scaring off varmints by using a starter pistol. These pellets(depending on distance, of course) can penetrate flesh. If your intent is to scare, they make almost no noise. There are better, cheaper tools for that.

Because they are selling a gun or because they are asking too much?

skou wrote:$130 for a recoil pellet gun?

Man, Woot! HAS JUMPED THE SHARK!!

steve

What sort of ammo can I use with this? Is it very expensive? (platinum???)

Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Illinois where air rifles/cross bows and stun guns are all considered firearms.

garfield43 wrote:Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Illinois where air rifles/cross bows and stun guns are all considered firearms.

do what we did and vote with your feet...move to a better state;-)

Since I live in Texas, I have a job and I'm not home in the daytime. Since the note says "adult signature required" does that mean I'll have to go to the local UPS (or other) shipping facility to pick this up when they come to deliver it and I'm not home?

gisborne wrote:What sort of ammo can I use with this? Is it very expensive? (platinum???)

You can use any type of .177 cal. pellet,you will just get different muzzle speeds. I have this Gamo rifle but I don't think it has the noise suppressing barrel, a PBA pellet will go supersonic and crack like a .22.

gisborne wrote:What sort of ammo can I use with this? Is it very expensive? (platinum???)

The stats say "Any .177 Pellet". Any material will function in this gun with that pellet caliber.

"Pellets" at Wallyworld

Also,


"Dampener"



"Damper"

An object that "dampens" is not always a "dampener".

Also,

The effectiveness of a projectile is not solely impacted (pun fully intended) by velocity. Rather it depends on both mass and velocity. Platinum is less dense than Lead. Thus, the air rifle can impart a greater velocity to the Platinum pellet than the Lead pellet. However, the energy delivered on impact will be similar.
Thus, I would not be wowed by the "30% faster than conventional lead pellets" thing.

I am impressed that it has an overall projectile velocity over 1000f/s. Thats more than enough to put out some varmints.

I have a similar gun as the Previously mentioned $80 one from Wally World. It does not have any silencing mechanism or fancy butt pad.

naegling wrote:
This is a very high quality air rifle, but you can pick up a Crosman Phantom with almost identical specs at Wally World for $80 online.

I have exposed my nerdiness far to much. I will stop now.

J. Bang

jpbay wrote:Uhh. Would this be a good first practice gun? And use to scare off yotes? No real bullets right?

If its moving through the air at several hundred feet per second on a ballistic trajectory and is made of lead.... its a bullet homie.

But yes, this would make an EXCELLENT trainer, provided you had the place to shoot it.

I have a 10 & 12 year old (no, not in the same body) a could they physically handle pumping and recoil on this thing?

Aw, man...
Massachusetts won't let us have ANY fun.

The next town over from me won't even let stores sell bottled water anymore.
WATER!
(It's the bottles they have a problem with, but still...)

Unfortunately Im' a resident of the CommieWealth of Massachusetts...gripe gripe gripe...

Move along...

rjsdad wrote:Woot seriously needs to check that shipping to NY thing. The zip codes they say are off limits do include NYC (as it should legally), but it also includes half of Nassau county - which has ZERO restrictions or laws against shipping air rifles in.

I bring it up every time, but every single time it is the same.


Zip codes 11530, 11520, 11001, etc... all fall under that blanket and all are in Nassau where it would be perfectly legal to own, purchase, or ship the air gun to.

Same thing here with the 18501-19388 restriction. I live in PA, it's perfectly legal to own this thing anywhere outside of Philly, as far as I'm aware. What's with the restricted zip codes? Is it because I live near Philly?

Every time I see an air gun on Woot, I get all excited, and then remember their stupid shipping restrictions.

KamikazeKen wrote:I know.... we've got a nice house in california, good jobs, but we're looking for work in Ohio or Texas. The government here in Cali is so ridiculous and corrupt we can't take it any more. They're actually adding open carry of unloaded shotguns in public to the long list of things that are banned here.

I moved from California to Texas 13 years ago. I desperately miss the mountains, but won't even entertain the thought of going back. I was giddy after the first six months when I saw how much more money I had in the bank after not having to over spend on everything. No state tax, but property taxes are higher. It means most of your tax dollars stay in your county instead of filtering it through some place like Sacramento.

jonathanluu2 wrote:I have exposed my nerdiness far to much. I will stop now.

J. Bang

Hahahaha. You're mot alone.

primadogga wrote:I have a 10 & 12 year old (no, not in the same body) a could they physically handle pumping and recoil on this thing?

This is an extremely heavy rifle and has a bit of a kick. I was surprised by the weight compared to our Daisy BB/Pellet. The breach loading/pumping is pretty stiff and would probably require them to rest the butt of the rifle on the ground.

yeah, last time this deal was around, i was living in philly..woot charged me and a week later said that they can't ship to here even though they didn't list philly as one of the restricted areas..their reason was that if an area in any part of the state is restricted, the whole state is restricted? which i found cool kids, oh well

yemicculus wrote:Same thing here with the 18501-19388 restriction. I live in PA, it's perfectly legal to own this thing anywhere outside of Philly, as far as I'm aware. What's with the restricted zip codes? Is it because I live near Philly?

Every time I see an air gun on Woot, I get all excited, and then remember their stupid shipping restrictions.

Ok, I am seriously confused now. Woot can not just sell hunting gear, but actual guns, and we cannot posts deals for guns? What am I missing?

primadogga wrote:I have a 10 & 12 year old (no, not in the same body) a could they physically handle pumping and recoil on this thing?

Its an air gun, so no recoil really anyway, and they will have no problem pumping it.

"Please Note: Gamo airguns are not toys and are recommended for use by those 16 years of age or older. Adult supervision is required. Misuse or careless use may cause serious injury. Do not brandish or display your airgun in public. It may confuse people and it may be a crime. Police and others may think an airgun is a firearm. Do not change the coloration or markings to make it look more like a firearm. Buyer and user should conform to all laws governing the use and ownership of their airgun. The person handling the airgun and anyone nearby should always wear protective eyewear. Read all instructions before using. Always use care and shoot safely."

Translation: "Dont be an teacher's pet".

For a first gun you can pick up a nice single shot .22 for around $120. Even comes with a pink, blue, or "camo" stock.

I could make several arguments that it would even be safer than this gun since it is a single shot, and it's a "real" gun and no one will mistake it for a toy with real bullets in it.

My 5 year old has shot my .22 and she got a kick out of it. Since she's starting on the real thing there won't be any bad habits learned about safety. High powered air rifle or not, it's not as dangerous as the genuine article, I doubt if it will shoot through walls, or even windows.

For squirrels and flying rats this would be better, you miss with a .22 in your semi suburban back yard and you're hitting something pretty hard. Missing with this seems a lot safer.

As a back yard plinker, it's ideal. Learn on a real gun at the range and then work on technique with this, maybe.

woodysgate wrote:"Please Note: Gamo airguns are not toys and are recommended for use by those 16 years of age or older. Adult supervision is required. Misuse or careless use may cause serious injury. Do not brandish or display your airgun in public. It may confuse people and it may be a crime. Police and others may think an airgun is a firearm. Do not change the coloration or markings to make it look more like a firearm. Buyer and user should conform to all laws governing the use and ownership of their airgun. The person handling the airgun and anyone nearby should always wear protective eyewear. Read all instructions before using. Always use care and shoot safely."

Translation: "Dont be an teacher's pet."

Used to be you could paint a fake gun pink or orange or something and people would know it's fake... too many new guns coming out in designer colors.