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Kelty Courser 40 Backpack

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mrtbshaw


quality posts: 3 Private Messages mrtbshaw

This pack is big enough to hold supplies for a 3-4 day trip. Longer than that, and I'd opt for a 4,000 to 5,000 cubic inch pack.

“Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.”
― Leonardo da Vinci

n8guy


quality posts: 1 Private Messages n8guy

This pack looks to review very well.

xochiluvr


quality posts: 13 Private Messages xochiluvr

I'm sensing a theme.... things that hold a lot of bacon week!

zxinfinity


quality posts: 14 Private Messages zxinfinity

would it really hurt anyone to include some more detailed photos? seriously, open the bag up and show us how it functions if you want us to buy them quickly!

neuropsychosocial


quality posts: 168 Private Messages neuropsychosocial
mrtbshaw wrote:This pack is big enough to hold supplies for a 3-4 day trip. Longer than that, and I'd opt for a 4,000 to 5,000 cubic inch pack.

I once packed for a 12 day trip to a cold weather climate (backpacking, but carrying food and medical supplies) in this; its capacity is like magic, I swear.

zxinfinity wrote:would it really hurt anyone to include some more detailed photos? seriously, open the bag up and show us how it functions if you want us to buy them quickly!

Give me ten minutes; I need to go get it out of attic.

RIP A.A. Blanks (Obituary)

kev386


quality posts: 0 Private Messages kev386

DAMN YOU WOOT!!! i dont know how many backpacks i need! now i can stuff my pack in my pack!

Sarzanini


quality posts: 6 Private Messages Sarzanini

So, are we talking AT backpack here or weekender?

wyreless


quality posts: 3 Private Messages wyreless

I agree, we need some images when buying something like a Pack, especially when you get into the 40 Liter and up sizing. I really hope we can get to a 50 Liter (or larger) pack soon. I am in the market for one and always want "The Deal".And I am seeing the same sentiment in many of the Pack Offerings on Woot!. It seems WOOT! has a relationship with Kelty so let us have some BIG PACKS PLEASE!. I need something that I can carry 2-3 Days of serious gear. Im not a minimalist camper so 40L will not do it. Oh and 1 more hing, remeber that some of us are "Big Boys". LOL In the meantime, I only found two Videos on You Tube for this pack and they are both weak. One is nthe standard one made by Kelty and another shows 2 Views and an Amazon Link, I'll skip that one.

Here is the link to Keltys Video, at least you can see the size in the hands of an average size person : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rNWwnKsvlU

"Living For The DEAL!!"

neuropsychosocial


quality posts: 168 Private Messages neuropsychosocial

First things first: we've seen a lot of Kelty in the past week, including the Strike 32 and Avocet 30. There's lot of good information about Kelty, including some comparisons of this pack to those, in those threads and I recommend skimming through them.

One thing we discussed recently was that the aluminum stays should be adjusted to your body. According to Kelty, it's possible to do this without removing the stay from the pack. (Sorry, I thought I'd scanned it to a pdf, but apparently not.)

RIP A.A. Blanks (Obituary)

thedukeoftank


quality posts: 3 Private Messages thedukeoftank
mrtbshaw wrote:This pack is big enough to hold supplies for a 3-4 day trip. Longer than that, and I'd opt for a 4,000 to 5,000 cubic inch pack.



40L is a bit too small for a weekend camping trip unless you are car camping or your gear is already ultralight. Figure most sleeping bags are at least 10L - 15L (unless you spend $300+), that leaves very little room for your tent, clothing, gear, food/water & other supplies. Again, unless you are packing some pretty pricey ultralight gear, this pack wont serve you for a weekend.

That being said, this pack is a Kelty and so you get all the rock solid reliability and customer service that come with that excellent brand. I just purchased another Kelty Redwing 44 pack yesterday. That pack is my little brother's (14) go-to pack when we do overnight - weekend backpacking trips. It works for him because I pack a 70L Osprey pack and carry the 2P backpacking tent, cooking gear and most of the food in my pack.

thunderdog


quality posts: 5 Private Messages thunderdog

skinnyrunnerboy


quality posts: 0 Private Messages skinnyrunnerboy

Doesn't look like a 40L backpack to me. Probably 70 or larger? Great price though.

wyreless


quality posts: 3 Private Messages wyreless
skinnyrunnerboy wrote:Doesn't look like a 40L backpack to me. Probably 70 or larger? Great price though.



Some of these pictures of the packs I have seen lately really are misleading (not saying this is intentional) and one of the reasons I think we need better images of the product. Just 2 or 3 good shots , maybe an inside shot and one with a person or Yardstick to give one a true idea of capability and sizing would be helpful. We really should not have to go running around to dig these facts and pictures uo when the ability to show us right here exists.

"Living For The DEAL!!"

lwang


quality posts: 19 Private Messages lwang

this looks so huuuge, but only 40L? Is it like a diameter of a power line pole?

ThunderThighs


quality posts: 312 Private Messages ThunderThighs

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lwang wrote:this looks so huuuge, but only 40L? Is it like a diameter of a power line pole?


Dimensions: 28"L x 12"W x 10.5"D

neuropsychosocial


quality posts: 168 Private Messages neuropsychosocial

(Album)

Front of pack:


Side:

Two compression straps along each side, plus a compression strap from the hood to the pack; there's a mesh pocket on each side, with a little loop-thing. I usually carry water attached via carabiner to the loops.

Front pocket:

Divider inside; this fits my 1-quart liquid bag, a full-size bottle of contact solution, with significant room left over for other junk, er, useful stuff.

Front, hood removed:

Pack pulls shut with a drawstring, which I then tuck inside the pack, close the front hooks, and start tightening straps. This thing is really spacious: you can see how tall it can be.

Hood:

Hood has a pocket with a little keychain thing. This is large enough that I often use it for dirty laundry for the first half of the trip or so. It comes off entirely if you want.

Inside: There's a flat pocket against the back that I find useful for my laptop or a folder of papers that I don't want bent; there's not much give to the pocket, which makes it nice to hold a laptop in the right position weight-wise.

The back:

bottom to top:
hip belt: fully adjustable (it should be wore around the belly button for best results; I grabbed a measuring tape: over my PJs, my waist is between 24-25" and this adjusts to that, but I've also worn it over a winter parka and adjusted it over that comfortably); hip belt is nicelypadded
shoulder straps, bottom: like any good pack, the length of the shoulder straps is easily adjustable after you've put it on by grabbing the ends and pulling
sternum strap: if you look closely, you can see that it slides along a little track, so you can position it higher or lower, depending on what's comfortable for you. It adjusts in width, of course. (BTW, I popped it out of the little track once and was able to put it back in with some effort); I just noticed that there's a little loop on it; could easily put something light on a carabiner
handle: there's a handle
shoulder straps, top: again, like a high-quality pack, totally adjustable
tie-down straps: you can't really see it here, but the straps holding down the hood are also adjustable in order to compress the load as much as possible.

Lumbar support:
Oooh, baby, look at that lumbar support! I researched for about a year before buying this Kelty pack; what really sold me on it was the lumbar support: far and away the best of any brand that I tried on.

RIP A.A. Blanks (Obituary)

juliant21


quality posts: 2 Private Messages juliant21

Found a somewhat in depth review that might help some people decide if this is for them.

Also includes several pictures.

http://advancedsurvivalguide.com/2011/07/22/review-kelty-courser-40-backpack/

Tallzxdriver


quality posts: 2 Private Messages Tallzxdriver

In for one. Been looking for something reasonably priced to build a BOB in case of disaster. This should do the trick.

flamespear


quality posts: 4 Private Messages flamespear
Tallzxdriver wrote:In for one. Been looking for something reasonably priced to build a BOB in case of disaster. This should do the trick.



So this is your zombie apocalypse bag? That's it I'm in for one!

scapsinger


quality posts: 15 Private Messages scapsinger
zxinfinity wrote:would it really hurt anyone to include some more detailed photos? seriously, open the bag up and show us how it functions if you want us to buy them quickly!



^^^^^^ this

(spoke too soon...scrolling down reveals a helpful post full of pics...still, would be nice for Woot to be posting more detailed photos to begin with)

hondac95


quality posts: 3 Private Messages hondac95
kev386 wrote:DAMN YOU WOOT!!! i dont know how many backpacks i need! now i can stuff my pack in my pack!



LOL, I have the same thoughts, already purchased the Kelty Redwing 44 and the High Peak Alpinismo 55 along with a tactical 72hrs pack for hunting. This one is tempting but, where I am going to put it? LOL

jonathanluu2


quality posts: 13 Private Messages jonathanluu2
neuropsychosocial wrote:

Front of pack:

Side:

Front pocket:

Front, hood removed:

Hood:

Inside:

The back:

bottom to top:

Lumbar support:



Sad.. beat me to it haha hope you got a quality post for that one.

2 things i will point out:

Kelty wrote:
Limited Warranty

Kelty takes pride in the quality of our products and guarantees that the materials and workmanship will be free from defects for the life of the product (with the exception of lighting, trekking poles, furniture, sleeping pads and air beds, which have a one year limited warranty). This warranty is limited to the product's original owner.
This warranty supersedes any other warranty and is subject to the following conditions and limitations.
Since no Kelty product is indestructible, Kelty’s warranty does not cover issues attributable to or resulting from normal wear and tear (i.e. exhausted zippers), natural hazard damage (i.e. weather, animals, ultraviolet [UV] damage on tents), abuse or alteration.



Also, it does not have straps for your sleeping roll at the bottom...which means it has to go in your pack... which takes up more space... or go without.

So if you are just cramming stuff in for a weekend this pack is sweet (and for $50 bucks, yeah!) but otherwise, go to the store and TRY ON a Gregory or Osprey or other comparable brand. I know they (Gregory and Osprey) have a lifetime guarantee with no questions asked.

J.Trek

jonathanluu2


quality posts: 13 Private Messages jonathanluu2

Also, as a general note for those getting into backpacking (if you are already in the midst of it, disregard my blah blah blah):

Try on backpacks before you buy if you can. Most reputable companies have the same "fit" across all of their lines. Find the company and size that Fits You. Then look for that company and size. Any REI store will be happy to weigh down some bags and strap you up, even if you dont buy anything.

The worst thing you can do is buy a pack that doesnt fit well and then you hate backpacking bc your investment doesnt fit.

Unless its a zombie apocalypse. Then all that kinda goes out the window, so for the price, its a great pack in case of zombie destruction.

flamespear wrote:So this is your zombie apocalypse bag? That's it I'm in for one!


MuddyG


quality posts: 6 Private Messages MuddyG

I just bought this one yesterday.



http://sport.woot.com/offers/getaway-internal-frame-pack

Can anyone tell me how these compare? Acording to my calculations, the Wenzel is bigger. Any thoughts on size, quality, comfort, or features would be appreciated.

Filth. Flarn. Filth.

walmartman


quality posts: 1 Private Messages walmartman

I think Woot! is just telling us to take a hike.

ceschuby


quality posts: 0 Private Messages ceschuby
jonathanluu2 wrote:
Try on backpacks before you buy if you can. Most reputable companies have the same "fit" across all of their lines. Find the company and size that Fits You. Then look for that company and size. Any REI store will be happy to weigh down some bags and strap you up, even if you dont buy anything.

The worst thing you can do is buy a pack that doesnt fit well and then you hate backpacking bc your investment doesnt fit.



Quoted for truth. The 2 most important pieces of gear in backpacking are your pack and your shoes. Get to an REI or other good outfitter to get help with a pack fitting, it you possibly can. If you do buy a pack online, buy it from somewhere where you can return it. Put all the gear (& food & water) you're planning to bring in it, experiment with different strap adjustments, and walk around for a while. Preferably, compare several packs.

Just got back from hiking the AT with a 50 L pack (I'm not an ultralighter)--this pack looks easily usable for a thru-hike, imo. I've seen a few Kelty packs on the trail (Osprey, Gregory, ULA, and GoLite are more popular) and it does seem to be a decent brand. Looks like it's got plenty of comfy padding in the photos, but that yellow stay in the back looks like it could cause some chafing..?

wgonfan


quality posts: 0 Private Messages wgonfan

OK, someone save me some research time & make it easy for a newb. I've been thinking about buying a quality bag for day use & weekend camping. Most of our camping will either be by car/camper or canoe so I don't need the storage space that backpackers need. However, I may do a multi-day backpacking trip some time in the next two years, so I'd like to purchase a bag that would at least be suitable for my son on said trip.

With that being said, I have tried on a few bags (small gregory, north face & some keltys) & really liked the the redwing 50. The redwing is also a internal frame pack with a larger volume. Looking for a little schooling on the different pack styles & uses as well as a recommendation. Seriously wanting to pull the trigger on this pack but I'm not sure its the best option for me.


Also, this pack is available in two sizes, how do I measure for the right fit?

ChampionOfChaos


quality posts: 0 Private Messages ChampionOfChaos

Just received the Shrike 32 I wooted the other day and love it. This will work perfectly for day hiking with the family this fall and biking on longer trips. I'm in for one in.

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Ryjaek


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Ryjaek
wgonfan wrote:Also, this pack is available in two sizes, how do I measure for the right fit?


The kelty website http://www.kelty.com/news.aspx?NewsTypeID=10&showarticle=92 has a description of how to measure.

kettes


quality posts: 2 Private Messages kettes

How does it work with a hydration bladder?

Yimmy149


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Yimmy149

Re: Hydration Bladder - you can see it has a sleeve and clips for one on the "inside" shot higher up this thread.

I'm in for one - hoping it will make a good travel/carry-on bag. Already have a couple REI packs for day hiking and backpacking.

Yimmy149


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Yimmy149
wgonfan wrote:OK, someone save me some research time & make it easy for a newb. I've been thinking about buying a quality bag for day use & weekend camping. Most of our camping will either be by car/camper or canoe so I don't need the storage space that backpackers need. However, I may do a multi-day backpacking trip some time in the next two years, so I'd like to purchase a bag that would at least be suitable for my son on said trip.

With that being said, I have tried on a few bags (small gregory, north face & some keltys) & really liked the the redwing 50. The redwing is also a internal frame pack with a larger volume. Looking for a little schooling on the different pack styles & uses as well as a recommendation. Seriously wanting to pull the trigger on this pack but I'm not sure its the best option for me.



Not having straps on the bottom is a big downside for a "backpacking" type bag - many people like to carry their mattress pad down there.

That being said, if you were wearing something in the 70L ballpark, this would probably be fine for your son. Typically the tent is your heaviest & bulkiest item. You could split it between the two packs (give him the fly & groundsheet), and he should still have room for his gear if he packs light.

lwang


quality posts: 19 Private Messages lwang
MuddyG wrote:I just bought this one yesterday.



http://sport.woot.com/offers/getaway-internal-frame-pack

Can anyone tell me how these compare? Acording to my calculations, the Wenzel is bigger. Any thoughts on size, quality, comfort, or features would be appreciated.



this one does not have many of the important things required for backpacking. Such as internal support, straps to adjust the load distribution to the back or waist, or straps to stabilize the backpack against the waist. It is good for stuffing things and maybe going for a short hike. But any longer than that or if you load the bag up, your back will be hurting.

sgtgreeneusmc


quality posts: 4 Private Messages sgtgreeneusmc
skinnyrunnerboy wrote:Doesn't look like a 40L backpack to me. Probably 70 or larger? Great price though.



Nope, it's a 40L.

sgtgreeneusmc


quality posts: 4 Private Messages sgtgreeneusmc

Alright Woot, its high time for a KELTY woot+!!

retan14


quality posts: 1 Private Messages retan14

I have the Kelty Avocet 30 from last week, and the similarities are incredible.
It looks like the basic "bag" was used from the Avocet, with several additions.
-Front pocket added.
-The top hood is taller, the Avocet's is ~1" tall.
-Aluminum stay and padded hip belt.

I have been able to get all my lightweight gear into the Avocet, which is a full 300 cu/in smaller. However, I really dislike lugging gear, so I use a bivy sack purchased from a returning infantrymen. I do not have a very heavy sleeping bag though, the bivy is a good booster for warmth.

Out where I live and hike, water is pretty rare, and I do not see many ways to haul much of anything externally.
Any ideas how to mount _anything_ externally on these Kelty's? An extra set of canteens and / or a bulky sleeping bag on the exterior would be a world of improvement on these packs.

wgonfan


quality posts: 0 Private Messages wgonfan
Yimmy149 wrote:Not having straps on the bottom is a big downside for a "backpacking" type bag - many people like to carry their mattress pad down there.

That being said, if you were wearing something in the 70L ballpark, this would probably be fine for your son. Typically the tent is your heaviest & bulkiest item. You could split it between the two packs (give him the fly & groundsheet), and he should still have room for his gear if he packs light.



Good info, thanks. Im going to go ahead and get this one.

mrglenasmith


quality posts: 2 Private Messages mrglenasmith
retan14 wrote:
Any ideas how to mount _anything_ externally on these Kelty's? An extra set of canteens and / or a bulky sleeping bag on the exterior would be a world of improvement on these packs.


I haven't got one, but looking at the pictures leads me to believe that the compression straps could be used to jury rig some additions. It appears that the compression cinchers have 3 through holes into which a split ring could be threaded. These could then be used to clip on some light weight additions.

If you want to go for some heavier gear, buy some mini-buckles like those shown here: http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/products-page/plastic-hardware/
and thread them onto the compression straps. Leave them loose, or sew them so they don't flop around. From the pictures, it looks like there are plenty of cinch straps, if each one got a buckle added, you could probably get more gear than you can carry attached to the pack.

I'd be happy to do some more experimentation and brain storming, simply deliver a pack to me and I'll see what I can come up with! ;)

I wish I could push that button, but then I'd be living out of that pack.

Glen

Yimmy149


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Yimmy149
retan14 wrote:Any ideas how to mount _anything_ externally on these Kelty's? An extra set of canteens and / or a bulky sleeping bag on the exterior would be a world of improvement on these packs.



Most bags have extra long webbing on the side compression straps, so you can use that to lash on some things - it looks like this one does also from the photos. There are a couple loops above/below the handle on the back that water bottles could clip to.

You can also have extra lash points added to the bag at some stores.