Looks like you can't turn the red one off. It's on even in the off image!

How come they don't spec brightness in lumens?

ThunderThighs wrote:Psssst: It's orange.

Maybe on YOUR monitor, but I got my monitor at Woot.com. That bad boy is RED.

$30 and review is
http://www.toolsnob.com/archives/2011/05/icon_link_flashlight_-_review.php

The specs on Amazon say it's 50 lumens. Nice and bright for a general purpose light, but I already have plenty of similar ones.

grassynoel wrote:How come they don't spec brightness in lumens?

According to this website, it is 50 lumens on high and 6 lumens on low.

I got two of the 130 lumen ones off woot a few days ago, and a 50 lumen I picked up a few months ago, these are some very nice flashlights. Its probably more useful since it can be attached to something else, like your keys for example (although they are somewhat heavy).

Now, do I want another one? I'll decide later, that orange one is an interesting color at least.

I like the look of it. Tired of the traditional roll away from you when you put it on a slanted surface cylinders.

I read an article saying that a 200+ lumen will dazzle someones' vision, and that it was a good call as a defensive weapon.
Woot, get your BATF license and sell REAL flashlights!

lonelypond wrote:I like the look of it. Tired of the traditional roll away from you when you put it on a slanted surface cylinders.

I was thinking the same thing. Price was right, plus my jumbo woot coupon code expires today and takes care of the shipping cost. In for three (2 orange and 1 black). Two for the house and one to hang on my pants while at work. All for only a few dollars more than one seems to normally retail for.

spizmar wrote:I read an article saying that a 200+ lumen will dazzle someones' vision, and that it was a good call as a defensive weapon.
Woot, get your BATF license and sell REAL flashlights!

Do you need a BATF license to sell flashlights with that lumen output? You can buy them from amazon, home depot, etc. I have seen over 1000 lumen flashlights from Coast on both companies websites (I like Coast brand flashlights a lot). I am not trying to question your knowledge, but rather inquiring as I am ignorant in regards to the subject.

I agree that a high lumen output light is great for self defense, but these are not designed for that purpose. They are a general use light.

Buy one of each colour if you're a giants fan...Or maybe for trick or treating, your kid deserves better than those cheap dollar store plastic 2.5 watt bulb pieces of crap

Any idea how weird these are to hold? I feel like the carabiner part might get in the way of the whole functional flashlight part.

what's the beam angle? 50 lumens with a beam angle of 0 deg will dazzle anyone, while a 1000 lumen unit with 180 deg angle will dazzle nobody.

These single AA battery lights seem to work fine. Any triple AA battery cartridge LED flashlight I've had fails, even those purchased on Woot. If I were buying something else to pay for shipping, I get this due to the carrying convenience but I've got too many flashlights already otherwise.

How does this compare with a MagLite Mini?

EDIT:

MagLite Mini: 15.2 Lumens

The Carabiner with 50 lumens beats the MagLite hands down

I probably know the answer already but I'll try asking anyway. Has anyone tried this with a 14500 battery? I'd get this flashlight (for the carabiner feature) if it can increase the light output without burning out the led.

I don't see the size of this flashlivhtlisted in the stats. Can somebody please tell me how big it is?

In for two. Appeals to two of my favorite OCD tendencies, flashlights and carabiner clips!

Increasing the voltage to an LED above its rating will kill said LED. Not only can you find that information on the web, but, I can vouch from personal experience...

I also read on a white paper from an LED manufacturer that you can't use Lumens to measure light output from an LED. The engineer may well know his stuff, but everyone seems to be rating them by Lumens. *shrug*

One last technical note - one meter rating means very little about how water resistant this might be. Read about water resistance for watches and you'll see what I mean.

rhondadposton wrote:I don't see the size of this flashlivhtlisted in the stats. Can somebody please tell me how big it is?

Length: 4 inches
Weight: 3.1 ounces

I think it's too heavy to go on a keychain, sadly.

buysumtime wrote:Do you need a BATF license to sell flashlights with that lumen output?

The commenter was joking ... I think.  Anyhow, I took it as a joke.

Woot with a Federal Firearms License would be quite something.  Handguns, rifles, and shotguns for the daily deals.  Ammunition, holsters, slings, bipods, and so on for the side deals ... shoot.woot!

*I don't see the size of his "flashlivhtlisted" in the stats. Can somebody please tell me how big it is?*

Would that be "flexed" or unflexed?

nucleartwig wrote:I probably know the answer already but I'll try asking anyway. Has anyone tried this with a 14500 battery? I'd get this flashlight (for the carabiner feature) if it can increase the light output without burning out the led.

It's a digitally voltage regulated light. You aren't increasing the light output with a new battery or anything short of replacing or modifying the regulator.

Anybody know how durable the carabiner is? I tend to break them often.

I have had one of these for several years. Bright white (almost blue) light. 2 light brightness settings. Great grip cut into the aluminium case. Buying another couple right now.

Icon flashlights appear to be well made. bought 2 of a different model back a while and am surprised at the weight (heavy), quality and light output especially on high beam. my version uses 2 AA rather than one. but, judging from the quality this looks like a good deal for a lower output light.

One would think the Specs page would have the dimensions. With all this Woot webpage upgrades and new format in the end it is just the same siesta stories and no info

I bought two of the Icon Rogue 2 flashlights that were for sale two weeks ago:
http://sport.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=5082299

I love mine (keeping the silver one and giving the black one to my dad for his birthday). They look and feel great in the hand, and they're brighter than any flashlight I've ever owned, so I'm a pretty satisfied customer.

Very, very tempted to get on of these small ones to hang off my bag.

Thanks to all the reviews in for 3 of these.No more buying those large square over priced batteries any more.Compact size and light weight perfect size for a household flash light.Thanks

Would rechargeable batteries work ok for these? I bought some on Woot recently and wondered if this is a good use for them. Thanks.

I'm not sure why but the orange one keeps calling to me. I don't have a use for this format but I'm not sure how long I can resist the siren's call.

wisenekt wrote:I'm not sure why but the orange one keeps calling to me. I don't have a use for this format but I'm not sure how long I can resist the siren's call.

It's a flashlight. You'll find a use.

inkycatz wrote:It's a flashlight. You'll find a use.

True, it has to be a lot more durable than these.

I just wanted to say that the product description pretty much nailed "Dual Survival." All that was missing was a reference to "respecting the animals we killed with a stick" some pseudo-Native American spirituality and a dash of herbal medicine.

I'm leery of wire 'biner clips - I have one on a cheap, non-climbing caarabiner that's cockeyed. My impression was that it had twisted, but maybe it was installed badly.

Given the positive reviews by people who actually have this item, I think I may have to get one or two. One orange, for sure.

MyPooka wrote:It's a digitally voltage regulated light. You aren't increasing the light output with a new battery or anything short of replacing or modifying the regulator.

False. These boost regulator designs will direct drive the LED if given a high enough input voltage (a bit over 3.(n) volts), minus a very small voltage drop across a current sensing resistor and transistor, "maybe" a diode too. It is very risky to use any battery type that has a fully charged voltage above the LED manufacturer's rating for forward voltage, and even then a 1 x AA light usually doesn't have enough heatsinking to support full spec'd drive current for a 3W LED, though I am not so sure this has a 3W LED, at 50 lumens and 3 hours runtime from a AA cell, it's probably a 1W LED or at least driven at 1W or less.

Inexpensive flashlights tend to have either boost or buck switching regulation. Having both is costly, takes up space, and lowers efficiency. Since it is boost, all it can do is either pass the full battery voltage or boost it, except in the case of low mode. You might be able to run a 14500 in low mode but it doesn't make much sense when you can do high mode with a common NiMH except with the 14500 you have higher power density but really someone caring about this factor would pick a different light running off a 18650 or at least 18500 cell instead.

feliphilia wrote:Would rechargeable batteries work ok for these? I bought some on Woot recently and wondered if this is a good use for them. Thanks.

Not only will they work, NiMH cells are highly recommended for any 1 x AA (or especially 1 x AAA) light running at 1W or higher drive current because alkaline cells struggle to supply enough current and suffer voltage depression (droop, lower than normal voltage) which results in lower light output, dropping below the minimum voltage the boost circuit needs, AND lowering realized capacity (mAH).

For example if this light is 75% efficient in the voltage boost circuit and drives the LED at 1W-

1W / (1.5V cell * 0.75) = 888mA drive current. Now see the following chart comparing realized capacity of a few different AA cell chemistries:
http://www.powerstream.com/AA-tests.htm