I'm excited to see some binoculars up - has anyone tried these out?

Will these fit picatinny rails?

$61.99 with free shipping on amazon instead of $59+5 = $64!!
http://www.amazon.com/BSA-Optics-PMRSCP-Panoramic-Multi-Reticle/dp/B001C0G8FI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1342557891&sr=8-3&keywords=BSA+Optics+Panoramic

It just depends on the rings you get as to what it will fit.

Excited to see all the hunting/shooting related items. Hoping to see some regular (non-red dot) scopes in some future offerings to make hubby happy.

So amazing!! Hope to get.

inkycatz wrote:I'm excited to see some binoculars up - has anyone tried these out?

No

BSA and "High end" dont belong in the same sentence. I would struggle using the word acceptable personally.

Rub wrote:Will these fit picatinny rails?

All I got from the website:

MOUNTING:
Your Sight includes an integrated rail that fits standard, 5/8 dovetail bases. Because of the unlimited eye-relief, you should
maintain at least three inches of clearance between the mirror lens and your eye while shooting. Set the rail onto the base
so that the rail claws align with the crosscut grooves. Align the base until the cross-bolt seats into the groove. Securely
tighten the locking screw with the Allen Wrench provided.

slappomatt wrote:BSA and "High end" dont belong in the same sentence. I would struggle using the word acceptable personally.

Why?

gilfilent wrote:Why?

The same reason M-16 and M-4 assault rifles still have a bad name. Some jams EARLY in the production of M-16 were attributed to bad design etc even though multiple studies proved it was the crap ammo being used. Forget the lives saved by the weapon and # of enemy taken out.
It's the "I have a buddy who has a buddy that knows a guy who had a bad BSA (insert name here) so I'll never buy one" rumor mill. The same can be said of EVERYTHING ever made except Rolls Royce…by comparison, American cars have a worse track record than BSA and the AR platform yet we still by the crap out of them….

gilfilent wrote:Why?

For any reason you care to name.

BSA is low end budget stuff. Acceptable for certain applications but woefully inadequate for others.

I wouldn't trust these to take much abuse (maybe not even much recoil), so I would probably limit the tactical-type optics to things like a .22 plinker. Bang it around and you'll need to re-zero it, assuming it still works.

Glass quality is also going to be marginal- not much light transmission compared to higher end gear like Leupold and Nikon, so the telescopic sights (while they might be acceptable at their price point) just aren't that great.

Don't go buying this stuff and think you're getting Aimpoint, EOTech, Zeiss, Trijicon, or even Nikon levels of quality. Heck, I wouldn't even put them in the same class as Redfield.

It's cheap Chinese import stuff. It may work great for some things, but there is a tangible quality difference between BSA and the higher dollar names.

Couldn't find this on the BSA sight. Am I missing something?

gilfilent wrote:Why?

Cheap components, low QC standards. BSA is a good example of 'you get what you pay for'.

lexicon5 wrote:The same reason M-16 and M-4 assault rifles still have a bad name. Some jams EARLY in the production of M-16 were attributed to bad design etc even though multiple studies proved it was the crap ammo being used. Forget the lives saved by the weapon and # of enemy taken out.
It's the "I have a buddy who has a buddy that knows a guy who had a bad BSA (insert name here) so I'll never buy one" rumor mill. The same can be said of EVERYTHING ever made except Rolls Royce…by comparison, American cars have a worse track record than BSA and the AR platform yet we still by the crap out of them….

Well, I've never had a jam (except in boot camp, m-16a2) while using either m-16 or m-4 during my time with with the military. I won't even try to guess how many rounds I've put through either (more m-4) but I will assure you it is more than the avg soldier.

I've never heard of BSA, except boy scouts of America. Just curious if it is poor parts. Typically with this kind of stuff, a gov't contractor has already invented the wheel. A company like BSA or Magpul are looking for either, the cheapest way to do it and get away with it, the most reliable product no matter the price or the cheapest most reliable product they can make.

technosavant wrote:For any reason you care to name.

BSA is low end budget stuff. Acceptable for certain applications but woefully inadequate for others.

I wouldn't trust these to take much abuse (maybe not even much recoil), so I would probably limit the tactical-type optics to things like a .22 plinker. Bang it around and you'll need to re-zero it, assuming it still works.

Glass quality is also going to be marginal- not much light transmission compared to higher end gear like Leupold and Nikon, so the telescopic sights (while they might be acceptable at their price point) just aren't that great.

Don't go buying this stuff and think you're getting Aimpoint, EOTech, Zeiss, Trijicon, or even Nikon levels of quality. Heck, I wouldn't even put them in the same class as Redfield.

It's cheap Chinese import stuff. It may work great for some things, but there is a tangible quality difference between BSA and the higher dollar names.

This is why.

technosavant wrote:For any reason you care to name.

BSA is low end budget stuff. Acceptable for certain applications but woefully inadequate for others.

I wouldn't trust these to take much abuse (maybe not even much recoil), so I would probably limit the tactical-type optics to things like a .22 plinker. Bang it around and you'll need to re-zero it, assuming it still works.

Glass quality is also going to be marginal- not much light transmission compared to higher end gear like Leupold and Nikon, so the telescopic sights (while they might be acceptable at their price point) just aren't that great.

Don't go buying this stuff and think you're getting Aimpoint, EOTech, Zeiss, Trijicon, or even Nikon levels of quality. Heck, I wouldn't even put them in the same class as Redfield.

It's cheap Chinese import stuff. It may work great for some things, but there is a tangible quality difference between BSA and the higher dollar names.

Ditto. BSA makes "acceptable" stuff if, you're putting it on a child's rifle for them to practice at the range, or you want to practice drills with your AR and don't want to damage your high end optics... OR if you just don't have much money and still want to go out shooting...

Bottom line, BSA will work if you have to buy it, but I wouldn't take their products into combat...

technosavant wrote:For any reason you care to name.

BSA is low end budget stuff. Acceptable for certain applications but woefully inadequate for others.

I wouldn't trust these to take much abuse (maybe not even much recoil), so I would probably limit the tactical-type optics to things like a .22 plinker. Bang it around and you'll need to re-zero it, assuming it still works.

Glass quality is also going to be marginal- not much light transmission compared to higher end gear like Leupold and Nikon, so the telescopic sights (while they might be acceptable at their price point) just aren't that great.

Don't go buying this stuff and think you're getting Aimpoint, EOTech, Zeiss, Trijicon, or even Nikon levels of quality. Heck, I wouldn't even put them in the same class as Redfield.

It's cheap Chinese import stuff. It may work great for some things, but there is a tangible quality difference between BSA and the higher dollar names.

While this is all true I think we have some unfair comparison's going on here. Of course these BSA products aren't going to compare to Aimpoint, EOtech, etc but they are also a fraction of the price even at the listed MSRP.

These should be fine for some recreational shooting and should be able to handle more than just a .22 (hopefully). That be said only someone as dumb as me would put these on a semi-auto shotgun (which is exactly what I'm going to do). I do this knowing full well I probably just flushed what I paid for it but it looked cool and prices are great so maybe I'll get lucky .

Great info guys thanks!

I agree with the posters about BSA quality.
I'd like to see woot get some vortex glass at a better price on here.