Usafa92 wrote:It's not bait. It just a fact. APO/FPO are used by our (ahem - the UNITED STATES) military and government employees. Not shipping to APO/FPO excludes that demographic.
People here, including me, aren't stupid and we're well aware of what APO/FPO ships to without you explaining. It doesn't exclude the demographic whatsoever given the continental US has military bases woot will ship to. Again, quit making stuff up and creating sheer demographic segments you alluded to in your original post when they are instead excluded not by job or profession or service but on policy and geographic delineations.
And it still doesn't go to YOUR POINT of woot being unpatriotic, which is complete BS. They didn't enact postal code. They didn't short supply the people that NEED the stuff as you so stated. Or those in Uniform you so plainly used as reason. They aren't the manufacturer.
The people that undermined the APO/FPO system are not woot, and it certainly doesn't make them unpatriotic or less patriotic, certainly not as loaded as that word has become of late, being thrown out there for any petty thing someone doesn't agree with.
Woot!/Amazon has the influence to ask the manufacturer to remove the battery as well.
Then rail on them first. You go after deep pockets, the makers, not the last step downstream. Government, makers, the actual cause. The seller? Holy heck.
You obviously don't know how APO/FBO's work.
No, you obviously have to think people are stupid instead of taking the time to understand what is being said simply because on first pass you didn't understand.
The policy that forces woot to not ship products with those batteries also seems to prevent them from shipping to Alaska and Hawaii as well. It's spelled out in the same paragraph under the warranty statement as you found the shipping/battery policy to complain about.
Woot isn't going after military or government types or being unpatriotic, the same even excludes even entire states. They aren't being discriminatory in the manner you suggested and then followed up on whatsoever.
Who said anything about combat gear?
You're kidding me, right? "Doing so would allow our folks in Uniform who may actually NEED one of these the ability to buy it."
There are hundreds of APO/FPO addresses across the globe.
That's nice. They can buy their own gear, and they can contact their reps for more efficient shipping and reasonable regulations when those reps screw them over. Not woot's problem of their own making. Someone else created it.
Stop trolling and trying to twist my words.
Yeah, yeah, I'm trolling because I disagree with your undeserved label and sentiments critiquing woot. I think my other posts in this thread shows I'm anything but a troll. Again, with the ridiculous name-calling crap because you don't agree with something.
You said NEED and it's still clear what you're aiming at when you combine that with trying to paint an action or company as unpatriotic. I'm not trying to twist anything, after all, you're the one that called a company not very patriotic for having a policy in line with US regs and their commonly used shipper. Don't incite next time then.
WTHF is a Congress critter?
You're joking, right?
Uncle Sam isn't Wal-Mart and doesn't make every piece of swag on the internet available to every troop. Many a would be geardo (google it) has used personal funds to buy stuff for themselves (combat & sportsman oriented).
Not sure if you're name calling again or saying the APO system is for geardos.
I'll ignore both.
My point is that you seem to want to give Uncle Sam, who is responsible for both the regs (directly/indirectly) and the troops, a free pass for short supplying them, but go after woot for not being very patriotic.
I'd call Uncle Sam out for putting a system in place then hamstringing it, creating this situation you and I disagree with. Further, if the gear is important, it shouldn't be bought by the soldier anyways, and yeah, Uncle Sam should be doing more. For one, not having such a stupid postal code. Two, having more of this more readily available or a higher priority system for the soldier than the reg limited (batteries for f's sake) shipping policies. But also for w t f a soldier has buy his optics gear at all (even if from an account or allowance). So yes, Uncle Sam should be a gun's walmart for the soldier than even relying on the APO/FPO system--in fact, I thought they were given these are used in combat along with similar devices/optics from other sight makers along with this one, which further makes your original statement absurd in my book.
Postal regs, not a problem of woot's making, woot isn't being unpatriotic, someone else screwed the intent of the system, simple as that.
